Prior to this narration, Ebuka had asked: “Do you find your gender or your age has been a bigger problem?” This question was answered in the affirmative and gender had been the culprit.
To bring the conversation to speed, up till that point Tiwa Savage had been sharing on her experience raising Jamil as a woman in the entertainment sector. According to her, she often got chastised by people for drinking or having tattoos, on the grounds that she was a mother. Meanwhile, her male counterparts who were fathers multiple times got none of that.
